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#12094 - 09/11/06 02:10 AM Transmission of 12 leads
Wes Ogilvie
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I regret that I've been unable to make more of the Combined Clinical Council meetings due to my other full-time job. (As hard as I've tried, I've been unable to break my addiction to a paycheck...)

However, I've been reading the meeting agendas. Can anyone explain why we're trying to transmit 12 leads via cellular technology to the ERs? As I understand it, a system-credentialed ALS provider can call a "Code STEMI" already. What added benefit is there from transmitting a strip to the ER from a 21st century version of Johnny and Roy's BioPhone?

There may be a great reason (and I'll bet someone at CP can explain why), but at this moment, it looks like a step back to Rampart and the days of "Mother, may I?" medicine.

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#12095 - 09/11/06 11:36 AM Re: Transmission of 12 leads [Re: Wes Ogilvie]
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I wouldn't trust our cell phones sending anything. We're lucky if we can even make a call on these phones.
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#12096 - 09/11/06 11:38 AM Re: Transmission of 12 leads [Re: Wes Ogilvie]
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Wes, I am not sure what you are referring to. We haven't transmitted ecg's in a very long time. Where are you reading this??? When we call a STEMI alert, we often will tell communications that we have an inferior/lateral MI or anterior, or whatever it is. Faxing or data transmitting ecg's is a waste of the patient's time and heart muscle . To my knowlege, and I have called a few people on this, we are not data transmitting ecg's. One commander said that if you really want to, then go ahead, but there really is no need for that. Does this clarify???

P.S. are you sure you aren't reading minutes from like eight years ago? Because back then I think it was required.
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#12097 - 09/11/06 12:10 PM Re: Transmission of 12 leads [Re: Laurie Emmer]
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Laurie:

Maybe I'm mis-reading the 9/13 CCC agenda as posted on the OMD website, but here's something I cut and pasted from it:

CLINICAL DEVELOPMENT
12 Lead Transmission implementation (Shamard)

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#12098 - 09/11/06 01:05 PM Re: Transmission of 12 leads [Re: Wes Ogilvie]
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Sounds like something none of us have heard of yet.....this will be about the 10th version of attempting to transmit EKG's for me...I started out with a Motorola Radio just like Johnny and Roy did in 1976 transmitting from a 70lb monitor...didn't work then, not sure why now...Bill
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#12099 - 09/11/06 06:08 PM Re: Transmission of 12 leads [Re: Wes Ogilvie]
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I have heard of this transmission of ekgs, from what I understand it is coming very soon. I have no confirmed information other than to add to the rumors, but I have heard of this too.

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#12100 - 09/11/06 06:16 PM Re: Transmission of 12 leads [Re: George Poulos]
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At the risk of being controversial, might it be possible that this is some sort of "reassurance" that we're giving to the cardiologists who might not think that paramedics are capable of reading a 12-lead?

If you ask me, this doesn't seem like a step forward, clinically speaking...

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#12101 - 09/11/06 09:34 PM Re: Transmission of 12 leads [Re: Wes Ogilvie]
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This is the second item that is coming out of OMD that others know about before field providers, first the "Team leader", now this.....Houston, we have a problem
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#12102 - 09/11/06 11:56 PM Re: Transmission of 12 leads [Re: Bill Needles]
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Bill, it is posted for all us to see. If you go to the OMD site and read the updates. All of the current information is placed on the site and it seems to be regularly updated. It is posted as there agenda for there meeting on 9/13.
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#12103 - 09/12/06 12:52 PM Re: Transmission of 12 leads [Re: Erin Block]
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